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	<title>Kommentare zu: Iranian movies attract greater international attention</title>
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		<title>Von: Tiger Lily</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tiger Lily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 18:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[here is just one point of many: branding.

Those films coming out of Tagespolitik Thirld World regions already have a branded identity, Iranian cinema in particular adhering to universal themes, bypassing local limitations via different symbolic  characters eg for a while it was children and the publicity of those films is  already given on a plate.

A lot of diaspora, tries to use more accessible technologies, but relies
heavily on the most idiotic of all types of Tagespolitik social engineering branding, that of multicultural efffnicity and gender, which for obvious reasons is very limited, repetitive and stereotypical to watch, whatever the new creative tricks. 

But then there are a few gems. 

 

Point2 : satisfaction of distant, exotic altruism

a bit like the feel-good-factor of supporting Costa Rican farmers by buying only some promised utopian packaging.

 

Next point: distribution (eg see Sony...)

Next point: laws of equity....loads more points...

 

Thanks for the article, radius-sending-me-around-your-tail ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here is just one point of many: branding.</p>
<p>Those films coming out of Tagespolitik Thirld World regions already have a branded identity, Iranian cinema in particular adhering to universal themes, bypassing local limitations via different symbolic  characters eg for a while it was children and the publicity of those films is  already given on a plate.</p>
<p>A lot of diaspora, tries to use more accessible technologies, but relies<br />
heavily on the most idiotic of all types of Tagespolitik social engineering branding, that of multicultural efffnicity and gender, which for obvious reasons is very limited, repetitive and stereotypical to watch, whatever the new creative tricks. </p>
<p>But then there are a few gems. </p>
<p>Point2 : satisfaction of distant, exotic altruism</p>
<p>a bit like the feel-good-factor of supporting Costa Rican farmers by buying only some promised utopian packaging.</p>
<p>Next point: distribution (eg see Sony&#8230;)</p>
<p>Next point: laws of equity&#8230;.loads more points&#8230;</p>
<p>Thanks for the article, radius-sending-me-around-your-tail <img src='http://persian-cat.de/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Von: Esfand A.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Esfand A.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 18:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First of all Oscar awards are for American movies, just like Fajr awards are for Iranian movies.  Oscars are noteworthy and the &quot;Superbowl of movie awards&quot; if you will because Hollywood has the longest history of Cinema, spends the most on movies and have the biggest shares of sales.

Now there are plenty of Iranian movies who have won foreign awards in countries other than America, but there are only a handful of either Iranian movies or of Iranian heritage that have been nominated for an Oscar.

You mention Persepolis, which was nominated for an Oscar but because it was an animation, it was nominated in the animated movie category.  Now in that year the competition was Ratatoulie which was a masterful animation and really no match for Persepolis.  Chalk that one up for bad luck for Persepolis for being nominated in the same year.  If it was any other year, there would&#039;ve been more chances.  Don&#039;t forget Persepolis won numerous awards other than Oscar.

Then you have Children of Heaven which was again nominated for an Oscar but it lost to Life Is Beautiful which won 3 Oscars for, best foreign film, best actor AND most importantly Best Picture of the Year.  So again challk that one for bad luck for being nominated in the same category as a heavy weight.  Children of Heaven didn&#039;t have any political braveness or background.

You also mentioned Offside.  Well one of the requirements for a film to be nominated for an Oscar is that the film to be shown at least one week on screen in a movie theatre in the country where that film was made.  Offside didn&#039;t get a permit to be shown and only a DVD release despite the campaign to allow authorities to show it only one week.

About Elly was at best something like House of Sand and Fog where the movie itself wasn&#039;t nominated for anything but had 3 nominations for best actor, actress and musical score.  About Elly was nowhere near as worthy.

So in conclusion I do not agree with the premise of your article.  I have seen arguments like yours where they say why Separation and not all these other movies?  Well because for one thing Separation was better!  Just because you think there are better movies doesn&#039;t make it so!  Other movies haven&#039;t even won any foreign awards much less an Oscar.

Separation has a universal message that many can relate to and it is the sign of our time, internationally.  It is also well written, well played and well made.

Not everything that is made and is good is worthy of an award.  See at least a dozen foreign films who have won an Oscar and then you&#039;ll find out why they&#039;ve won and why other Iranian movies have not made it.

Everything is sacred]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all Oscar awards are for American movies, just like Fajr awards are for Iranian movies.  Oscars are noteworthy and the &#8220;Superbowl of movie awards&#8221; if you will because Hollywood has the longest history of Cinema, spends the most on movies and have the biggest shares of sales.</p>
<p>Now there are plenty of Iranian movies who have won foreign awards in countries other than America, but there are only a handful of either Iranian movies or of Iranian heritage that have been nominated for an Oscar.</p>
<p>You mention Persepolis, which was nominated for an Oscar but because it was an animation, it was nominated in the animated movie category.  Now in that year the competition was Ratatoulie which was a masterful animation and really no match for Persepolis.  Chalk that one up for bad luck for Persepolis for being nominated in the same year.  If it was any other year, there would&#8217;ve been more chances.  Don&#8217;t forget Persepolis won numerous awards other than Oscar.</p>
<p>Then you have Children of Heaven which was again nominated for an Oscar but it lost to Life Is Beautiful which won 3 Oscars for, best foreign film, best actor AND most importantly Best Picture of the Year.  So again challk that one for bad luck for being nominated in the same category as a heavy weight.  Children of Heaven didn&#8217;t have any political braveness or background.</p>
<p>You also mentioned Offside.  Well one of the requirements for a film to be nominated for an Oscar is that the film to be shown at least one week on screen in a movie theatre in the country where that film was made.  Offside didn&#8217;t get a permit to be shown and only a DVD release despite the campaign to allow authorities to show it only one week.</p>
<p>About Elly was at best something like House of Sand and Fog where the movie itself wasn&#8217;t nominated for anything but had 3 nominations for best actor, actress and musical score.  About Elly was nowhere near as worthy.</p>
<p>So in conclusion I do not agree with the premise of your article.  I have seen arguments like yours where they say why Separation and not all these other movies?  Well because for one thing Separation was better!  Just because you think there are better movies doesn&#8217;t make it so!  Other movies haven&#8217;t even won any foreign awards much less an Oscar.</p>
<p>Separation has a universal message that many can relate to and it is the sign of our time, internationally.  It is also well written, well played and well made.</p>
<p>Not everything that is made and is good is worthy of an award.  See at least a dozen foreign films who have won an Oscar and then you&#8217;ll find out why they&#8217;ve won and why other Iranian movies have not made it.</p>
<p>Everything is sacred</p>
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		<title>Von: Radius</title>
		<link>http://persian-cat.de/?p=2256#comment-204</link>
		<dc:creator>Radius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 18:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Anahid and Darius, glad to hear that my view is not totaly singular, although many others might not share it. I know that the &quot;professional&quot; critics in the media also found some points to complaine about Shirin Neshats &quot;Woman without Men&quot;. But who cares.

I had a look at the program of the Berlinale Festival that starts tomorrow. This years focus went completely onto the &quot;Arabellion&quot; countries, many movies from Egypt, Lebanon, and onto russian/soviet cinematography.

In the &quot;Young Talents&quot; section there is a 10min short-movie &quot;A little suicide&quot; by Ana Lily Amirpour (http://www.berlinale-talentcampus.de/story/94/3594...) She is obviously of Iranian descendent from the LA based emigrants community. 

Darius, in case you want to come to Berlin and do an interview with her: I assume she will be there to present her film on 15th and 17th of February.

greetings    Radius]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Anahid and Darius, glad to hear that my view is not totaly singular, although many others might not share it. I know that the &#8220;professional&#8221; critics in the media also found some points to complaine about Shirin Neshats &#8220;Woman without Men&#8221;. But who cares.</p>
<p>I had a look at the program of the Berlinale Festival that starts tomorrow. This years focus went completely onto the &#8220;Arabellion&#8221; countries, many movies from Egypt, Lebanon, and onto russian/soviet cinematography.</p>
<p>In the &#8220;Young Talents&#8221; section there is a 10min short-movie &#8220;A little suicide&#8221; by Ana Lily Amirpour (<a href="http://www.berlinale-talentcampus.de/story/94/3594" rel="nofollow">http://www.berlinale-talentcampus.de/story/94/3594</a>&#8230;) She is obviously of Iranian descendent from the LA based emigrants community. </p>
<p>Darius, in case you want to come to Berlin and do an interview with her: I assume she will be there to present her film on 15th and 17th of February.</p>
<p>greetings    Radius</p>
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		<title>Von: Darius Kadivar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darius Kadivar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 18:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree !

Good read and intelligent overview of the current productions both inside and outside Iran and the way they are percieved by either being over estimated or under valued.

Thanks for sharing !]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree !</p>
<p>Good read and intelligent overview of the current productions both inside and outside Iran and the way they are percieved by either being over estimated or under valued.</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing !</p>
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		<title>Von: Anahid H.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anahid H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 18:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear radius-of-the-persian cat, I enjoyed reading your blog.

Unfortunately with regards to different art forms in Iran, it is the worst with movies.  A poet in Iran can write his/her poetry since no license is required. Even though there is threat of censorship and in cases, there are consequences to writing the wrong poem, article or story but unlike a movie, not every step of the creative process (or at least many steps of it) has to happen under IRI eyes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear radius-of-the-persian cat, I enjoyed reading your blog.</p>
<p>Unfortunately with regards to different art forms in Iran, it is the worst with movies.  A poet in Iran can write his/her poetry since no license is required. Even though there is threat of censorship and in cases, there are consequences to writing the wrong poem, article or story but unlike a movie, not every step of the creative process (or at least many steps of it) has to happen under IRI eyes.</p>
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		<title>Von: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 17:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Hafiz, I also heard about the fuzz that was caused among the Iranians about Goshiftehs nude photographs in a French journal. The Webserver of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.iranian.com/main/2012/jan/golshifteh-farahani-poses-nude&quot; target=new rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Iranian.com&lt;/a&gt; was stalled like during a DOS attack, cause every user wanted to comment on this.
Maybe her only intention was to make a clear statement to the Islamic Moral authorities, that she feels free now to do what she wants to do, and that she does not need a way back to the system of cultural oppression.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Hafiz, I also heard about the fuzz that was caused among the Iranians about Goshiftehs nude photographs in a French journal. The Webserver of <a href="http://www.iranian.com/main/2012/jan/golshifteh-farahani-poses-nude" target=new rel="nofollow">Iranian.com</a> was stalled like during a DOS attack, cause every user wanted to comment on this.<br />
Maybe her only intention was to make a clear statement to the Islamic Moral authorities, that she feels free now to do what she wants to do, and that she does not need a way back to the system of cultural oppression.</p>
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		<title>Von: Hafiz Shirazi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hafiz Shirazi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 17:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When you say &quot;...cinema attracts greater international attention&quot; I would answer that perhaps the biggest media coverage was not for one of the new Iranian movies, but for an &lt;a href=&quot;http://new-news-wallpaper-hot.blogspot.com/2012/01/new-golshifteh-farahani.html&quot; target=new rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Iranian actress&lt;/a&gt;, who posed for some nude pictures.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you say &#8220;&#8230;cinema attracts greater international attention&#8221; I would answer that perhaps the biggest media coverage was not for one of the new Iranian movies, but for an <a href="http://new-news-wallpaper-hot.blogspot.com/2012/01/new-golshifteh-farahani.html" target=new rel="nofollow">Iranian actress</a>, who posed for some nude pictures.</p>
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